Holy Spirit And Free Will In Demon DeliveranceNorman Oetker English Class Reynosa Mae Hong Son Thailand Mexico St. Charles Missouri Hmong Missionary L.A.M. The Light Amidst The Mong. Christian Outreach To Northwest Thailand.

 Demon Deliverance MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary "The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO" Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

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Question to Missionary Norman Oetker 

so… if it’s the holy spirit that can cleanse the demon possession, how do u explain other exorcisms carried out in the name of Allah??

of Muslim women in Malaysia. 

Hola…thanks for your comment and question. 

I need to explain a phenomenon which involves a person’s "free will."

As stated before in this forum,  

"one cannot decide to become a Christian." 

The "Trinity," God the "Father," Through God the "Holy Spirit," begins a drawing of one to Himself.

Finally, the only way "one" can come to God, is through God the Son, "Jesus."  

Before this "drawing," one is unable to understand their relationship to the Father, during this "drawing of ‘one’ to the Father," it is then, that a person begins to understand their separation from God, furthermore, the knowledge of "how" to come into a right relationship to "God the Father," through "God the Son Jesus," in fact, becomes an understandable, demonstrative truth. 

Consequently, this process includes the human element of "Free Will."

Accordingly, the process that happens requires one to begin the assimilation of this "awareness," of "God." 

The "Quintessential" point here is, that as one contemplates, this very real and personal experiences in their lives during this time, (this Drawing) another element unknown before comes into a "focus reality."

And that is?

"Love!" God is Love, it is happening at this point, in a perplexing, real, way, that one is unable to express fully in words.

Therefore, this, "God’s Love" isn’t just an ideal or an abstract concept, it is palpable, felt, enters into a sense of a personal consciousness that was untouched previously.

Jesus’s love for the Father, his unabashed willingness to accept for another, all that He was sent to do.

His free will, that was used in the fulfillment of the ‘Atonement." "Man’s Salvation." 

God’s love is forgiveness, His acceptance, of a repentant one, who had previously opposed Him. 

Now to your comment and question, 

The Holy Spirit does not cleanse the person of a demon.

Just as with the first, the Holy Spirit is used to draw one to the Father, second, it is the person awareness of the gospel message and it’s application, thirdly, the free will of man. 

Thus, only those that have been lead of the Holy Spirit can discern this demon activity.

The person seeking deliverance state of mind comes into play, and that is paramount.

Does a person understand what is happening? and does one want God’s help in this separation process?    

Now, to the critical point at hand, which is, when a Christian Believer, lead of the Holy Spirit, in cooperation and full understanding of the one seeking deliverance, uses "Free Will."

The Christian Believer’s free will is key, for their "will,"  will come under all sorts of rational during a session, examples being: for it to be over, that’s it’s finished, all is well, yet, it is this yielding of their will to the Holy Spirit, for the direction and the spiritual awareness of others workings simultaneously with them during these sessions.   

The Holy Spirit Of God does not take control of a Christian in the deliverance ministry. One is exercising their free will, in conjunction with the Holy Spirit, that is in accordance with the "Bible."  

"The Full Christian Bible Of Both The Old And New Testament." 

These Spirit lead individuals are not new Christians, but those who have been lead to work in these various ministerial capacities.

Your last comment can be some up with this analogy.

 

Exodus 7

10  And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

11  Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

12  For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods.

13  And he hardened Pharaoh’s heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.

Exodus 7

20  And Moses and Aaron did so, as the LORD commanded; and he lifted up the rod, and smote the waters that were in the river, in the sight of Pharaoh, and in the sight of his servants; and all the waters that were in the river were turned to blood.

21  And the fish that was in the river died; and the river stank, and the Egyptians could not drink of the water of the river; and there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt.

22  And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the LORD had said.

 

Exodus 8

6  And Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt; and the frogs came up, and covered the land of Egypt.

7  And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt.  

Exodus 8

16 ¶  And the LORD said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the land, that it may become lice throughout all the land of Egypt.

17  And they did so; for Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt.

18  And the magicians did so with their enchantments to bring forth lice, but they could not: so there were lice upon man, and upon beast.

 

A Strong Word Of Caution To All Those Who Read This

"don’t do this at home"

or, to be part with others, who contact spirits in the "Spirit World." 

All spirit’s have power and are lying evil. 

They will hurt you, through their deception to you in this life and, for all of eternity.

Missionary Norman Oetker Reynosa Mexico 

Their is only "One God" and only one way to Him, and that is through "Jesus."

 

 

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